The Red Bucket
A Protective Coatings Podcast

CTSP Episode 180 - The Importance of Proven Performance

Matt McDonald, Director of Sales – Rail for Carboline, joins Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis to discuss important factors when deciding which coating to specify for rail work. They explore the advantages of selecting the right coating the first time.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 2:00 – Matt McDonald – Carboline Rail Sales
  • 3:00 – The importance of proven performance
  • 4:15 – The balance of proven performance and innovation
  • 5:45 – The evaluation of coatings for rail exteriors
  • 8:00 – No substitute for field history
  • 9:30 – Cost of service life versus cost per gallon
  • 12:00 – Savings on maintenance and repair by selecting a sustainable coating
  • 14:45 – Tracking coating performance
  • 17:00 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 179 - Corrosion Consideration & Coatings for Upstream Oil & Gas Assets

Carboline Oil & Gas Market Manager Doug Sinitiere joins Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis to discuss corrosion associated with Upstream Oil & Gas Assets and the coatings that protect them.

0:00 – Intro and the new Carboline Tech Service Podcast listener 3:45 – Re-introduction to upstream oil & gas 4:30 – Standards used to specify coatings for upstream oil & gas assets 7:00 – Certifications for fireproofing systems used with upstream oil & gas assets 13:00 – Coatings used for upstream oil & gas assets 19:31 – Wrap Up

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CTSP Episode 178 - The "Third Side" to a Rail Car

Carboline Rail Sales Rep Joe Foster joins Paul Atzemis and Jack Walker to discuss how jacketed tank cars have a space between the jacket and the tank that requires inspection during the car's maintenance cycle.  

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 2:20 – Joe Foster – Carboline Rail Sales
  • 3:00 – The "third side" of a rail car (tank car)
  • 3:50 – Tank cars
  • 5:00 – Jacketed tank cars and their similarities to coatings under insulation
  • 5:30 – Visual look at the inspection areas
  • 8:30 – Number of inspection points on jacketed tank cars
  • 9:30 – Jacketed versus non-jacketed tank cars
  • 10:00 – Corrosion mechanisms between the jacket and the tank
  • 12:00 – Taking the rail car apart for inspection
  • 12:40 – Coatings used to protect the space between the jacket and the tank on a rail car
  • 15:00 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 177 - AWWA D102 - Outside Coating Systems for Water Tanks

Brian Cheshire joins Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis to discuss the AWWA D102 standard as it relates to coatings for the exterior of water tanks. They discuss factors relating to the industry, coating choice, surface prep, and more.

  • 0:00 - Introduction
  • 3:00 - Brian Cheshire and an introduction to water tanks
  • 7:37 - AWWA D102 – Coating Steel Water-Storage Tanks
  • 9:38 - Outside coating systems (OCS) per AWWA D102
  • 13:44 - Use of fluoropolymers for the exterior coating on water tanks
  • 16:17 - Surface preparation for maintenance systems for coating the exterior of water tanks
  • 19:00 - How to use the AWWA D102 standard
  • 20:37 - Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 176 - Common Tests for Coatings in Immersion Service

Carboline Vice President of Research, Development & Innovation Jeff Anderson joins Paul Atzemis and Jack Walker to discuss common testing for coatings designed for immersion service. They examine the methods of testing and the reasoning behind them.

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CTSP Episode 175 - Common Tests for Coatings in Atmospheric Service

Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss common laboratory tests for coatings in atmospheric service. They discuss the definition of atmospheric service and describe some of the various tests.

  • 0:00 – Intro and Paula
  • 3:00 – Definition of atmospheric service
  • 3:45 – CTSP Episode 130 – ISO 12944 Environment Classifications
  • 4:15 – Coating types for atmospheric service
  • 7:00 – Chalking and fading of epoxies in atmospheric service
  • 8:30 – Polyurethanes and polyaspartics in atmospheric service
  • 9:15 – QUV testing of coatings for atmospheric service
  • 12:00 – Salt fog testing for coatings
  • 13:30 – Adhesion testing for coatings
  • 14:30 – Mandrel bend test for coatings
  • 16:00 – Impact and Reverse Impact testing of coatings
  • 17:00 – Natural weather testing
  • 18:45 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 174 - AWWA C210 - Liquid-Epoxy Coatings & Linings for Steel Water Pipe & Fittings

Brian Cheshire joins Paul Atzemis and Jack Walker to discuss AWWA C210. This standard covers liquid-epoxy coatings for steel water pipes and fittings. It is widely used in the water industry and has begun to be used for assets other than steel water pipes.

  • 0:00 - Intro
  • 1:37 - Drinking water infrastructure in the United States
  • 4:29 - Types of steel pipes in the water industry and typical coatings that meet this standard
  • 6:02 - Minimum requirements for AWWA C210
  • 7:11 - Application of coatings per AWWA C210
  • 7:58 - The constructor, the manufacturer, and the purchaser
  • 8:22 - The growth of AWWA C210 and use in AWWA D102
  • 9:07 - Testing requirements for coatings per AWWA C210
  • 11:49 - Quality control measures per AWWA C210
  • 13:44- Real-world example that would benefit from AWWA C210 approved coatings
  • 15:04 - Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 173 - Oil & Gas Upstream Considerations

Carboline Technical Service Director Paul Atzemis and Jack Walker are joined by Carboline’s Oil & Gas Market Manager Doug Sinitiere to discuss the upstream portion of the Oil & Gas industry. The trio discusses the different aspects of upstream oil and gas while also identifying corrosion factors.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 2:15 – What does upstream mean when referring to the oil & gas market
  • 4:00 – Challenges associated with onshore drilling for oil and gas
  • 6:00 – The changing landscape of the oil & gas upstream market
  • 11:00 – Corrosion challenges of offshore oil & gas facilities
  • 15:30 – Corrosion challenges of onshore oil & gas facilities
  • 17:15 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 172 - Technical Service Capabilities

Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss the Carboline Technical Service Department. The two explore all of the services this department provides to the industry. From specification writing and review to applicator training, this department greatly influences the coatings industry.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 2:00 – Introduction to the Carboline Technical Service Department
  • 3:30 – Reaching the Carboline Technical Service Department
  • 5:30 – Working on coating specifications with the Carboline Technical Service Department
  • 8:00 – Extent of the Carboline product line
  • 9:45 – The natural checks and balances of the Carboline Technical Service Department
  • 14:00 – How Carboline Technical Service helps applicators through training and job start-ups
  • 18:00 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 171 - Pre-Construction Primers

Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss pre-construction primers. The duo examines what makes them different from other primers, when to use pre-construction primers, and other factors.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 2:00 – Pre-construction primers
  • 3:00 – The definition of pre-construction primers
  • 5:00 – The thickness and uniformity of pre-construction primers
  • 7:00 – The role of pre-construction primers in high-performance coating systems
  • 10:00 – The evolution of the use of pre-construction primers
  • 13:00 – Studies on pre-construction primers
  • 14:00 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 170 - SSPC-SP18 - Thorough Spot & Sweep Blast Cleaning for Industrial Maintenance

Senior Tech Service Engineer Dan Baribault joins Paul Atzemis and Jack Walker to discuss the SSPC standard SSPC-SP 18, Thorough Spot and Sweep Blast Cleaning for Industrial Maintenance. The trio discusses the ins and outs of the standard.

  • 0:00 – Intro and the death of a blender
  • 2:25 – SSPC-SP 18 Thorough Spot and Sweep Blast Cleaning for Industrial Maintenance
  • 4:00 – How SSPC-SP 18 differs from the SSPC-SP 10 and SSPC-SP 7 standards
  • 5:10 – The differences between sweep blasting per SSPC-SP 18 versus Brush-off blasting per SSPC-SP 7
  • 6:19 – Requirements prior to the performance of SSPC-SP18
  • 7:07 – Acceptable methods of performing SSPC-SP 18
  • 10:03 – Requirements for cleaning the substrate after abrasive blasting per SSPC-SP 18
  • 12:15 – Existing coating considerations for SSPC-SP 18
  • 14:05 – The use of corrosion inhibitors when performing SSPC-SP18
  • 16:16 – Wrap Up

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CTSP Episode 169 - Manhole Rehabilitation

Brian Cheshire joins Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis to discuss manhole rehabilitation within wastewater collection systems. The trio discusses factors that cause corrosion and what to do to protect manholes from future corrosion.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 1:15 – Manhole Rehabilitation
  • 5:20 – Inflow and infiltration
  • 7:40 – Methods of manhole rehabilitation
  • 11:36 – Testing of coatings for manhole rehabilitation
  • 14:10 – Protective coatings for manhole rehabilitation
  • 15:25 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 168 - Field Analysis of Common Coating Problems

Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis are joined by Tech Service Engineer, William Seawell to discuss the on-site investigation of the types of coating defects discussed over the last 2 weeks.

  • 0:00 – Intro – CTSP on YouTube
  • 1:00 – Introduction of William Seawell
  • 2:12 – Determining if the defect is a bubble or blister on site
  • 4:20 – Identifying pinholes and/or craters on site
  • 6:45 – Identifying cracking phenomena on a job site
  • 10:30 – Localized versus uniform defects across the entire structure
  • 14:02 – Evaluating a tank failure
  • 15:22 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 167 - Alligatoring, Cracking, Checking, Crazing & Mudcracking

Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis continue their discussion on common types of coating defects. This week they explore the different defects that are associated with the cracking of a coating system.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 1:15 – Coating defects related to cracks
  • 2:57 – Alligatoring or Crocodiling - Identification, causes, prevention, and treatments
  • 4:19 – Cracking - Identification, causes, prevention, and treatments
  • 6:53 – Checking - Identification, causes, prevention, and treatments
  • 9:39 – Crazing - Identification, causes, prevention, and treatments
  • 11:20 – Mudcracking - Identification, causes, prevention, and treatments
  • 15:55 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 166 - Bubbles, Blisters, Pinholes & Craters

Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss common forms of coating failure. They dissect the differences between the commonly interchanged terms of blisters, bubbles, pinholes, and craters.

  • 0:00 – Intro and the Karate Kid
  • 2:28 – Bubbles, blisters, Pinholes, and Craters
  • 3:11 – Fitz’s Atlas of Coating Defects
  • 4:19 –  Pinholes - Identification, causes, prevention, and treatments
  • 6:10 – Cratering - Identification, causes, prevention, and treatments
  • 10:00 – Bubbling - Identification, causes, prevention, and treatments
  • 12:17 – Blisters - Identification, causes, prevention, and treatments
  • 15:22 – Wrap Up

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CTSP Episode 165 - Coating Ductile Iron

Brian Cheshire joins Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis to discuss coating ductile iron pipe, how it's different from steel, and what standards to use.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 1:38 – What makes ductile iron different than steel
  • 2:37 – Ductile iron surface prep requirements
  • 3:30 – Color change when blasting ductile iron pipe and dangers of over-blasting
  • 5:25 – The first three parts of NAPF 500-03 (NAPF 500-03-01 Solvent Cleaning, NAPF 500-03-02 Hand Tool Cleaning, NAPF 500-03-03 Power Tool Cleaning)
  • 7:12 – NAPF 500-03-04 Abrasive Blast Cleaning for Ductile Iron Pipe and NAPF 500-03-05 Abrasive Blast Cleaning for Cast Ductile Iron Fittings
  • 10:27 – Coatings used on ductile iron substrates
  • 12:43 – Lining ductile iron pipe
  • 14:30 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 163 - Fiber-Reinforced Epoxies & Sanitile 755 FR

Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss fiber-reinforced epoxies and where they should be used. They explore the characteristics of the coating and appropriate markets for these products.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 2:32 – Fiber-reinforced epoxies
  • 3:13 – Characteristics of fiber-reinforced epoxies
  • 4:04 – Fiber-reinforced epoxies vs mat layup systems
  • 5:10 – Physical properties of fiber-reinforced epoxies
  • 5:40 – FRP wall paneling vs fiber-reinforced epoxies
  • 8:03 – Using fiber-reinforced epoxies in food and beverage facilities
  • 11:45 – Sanitile 755 FR vs a Fastball
  • 12:05 – High impact zones
  • 13:22 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 162 - Abrasive Blasting of Non-Ferrous Metals

Dan Baribault joins Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis to discuss abrasive blast standards for non-ferrous metals. The trio explores the standards and explains the differences between them.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 2:02 – Abrasive blasting standards for non-ferrous metals
  • 2:20 – SSPC SP 16 – Brush- off Blast Cleaning Non-Ferrous Metals
  • 4:09 – Minimum surface profile required by SSPC SP 16
  • 5:05 – Checking for passivating materials on galvanizing
  • 6:19 – Brush-off blasting
  • 7:00 – The importance of de-humidification
  • 8:02 – SSPC SP 17 – Thorough Blast Cleaning of Non-Ferrous Metals
  • 10:35 – The need for a job reference standard (JRS) for SSPC SP 17
  • 13:24 – SSPC SP17 addresses non-visible contaminants
  • 15:04 – Proper abrasives for blasting of stainless steel
  • 16:49 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 161 - Substrates in Wastewaster Treatment Environments

Brian Cheshire joins Paul Atzemis and Jack Walker to discuss substrates found in a wastewater treatment plant. The trio explores the factors associated with the various structures and what to keep in mind when coating them.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 2:20 – Substrates in wastewater treatment environments
  • 2:50 – Concrete in wastewater treatment environments
  • 4:50 – Steel in wastewater treatment environments
  • 7:04 – Ductile iron in wastewater treatment environments
  • 8:54 – Non-ferrous metals in wastewater treatment environments
  • 9:40 – PVC and various plastics in wastewater treatment environments
  • 10:53 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 160 - Is a Coating Dry? Or Is It Cured?

Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss the definitions of the varying stages during the curing process of a high-performance coating.

  • 0:00 – An unforgettable mistake
  • 2:55 – Cured coating definition
  • 4:08 – ISO 9117 and ASTM D1640
  • 6:00 – Set to touch
  • 6:55 – Dry to touch
  • 9:00 – Dry Hard versus Dry to Handle/Dry Through
  • 11:07 – Dry to recoat
  • 12:56 – How to determine the cure of a high-performance coating
  • 16:20 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 159 - How to Treat Expansion Joints & Other Complexities within Secondary Containment Coating Systems

Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss the final aspects of sound secondary containment coating systems. They explore pipe penetrations, equipment footings, expansion joints, control joints, and how to stay in compliance with EPA regulations through coating system design.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 1:18 – Secondary Containment and CTSP Episode 151
  • 1:35 – Additional considerations for secondary containment design
  • 3:18 – Why flexible coatings are needed to complete a secondary containment system
  • 4:40 – Flexible coating technology types used to compliment secondary containment systems
  • 6:54 – Areas within secondary containment that require flexible coatings
  • 7:30 – Treatment for equipment footings, pipe penetrations, etc.
  • 7:58 – Treatment for expansion joints and control joints
  • 8:16 – Vehicular traffic expansion/control joint treatment for secondary containment systems
  • 9:50 – Proper backer rod depth and two-sided adhesion
  • 11:14 – Importance of bond-breaker tape
  • 13:35 - Foot traffic only expansion/control joint treatment for secondary containment systems
  • 14:30 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 158 - Waterjet Cleaning

Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis are joined by the Rajin’ Cajun Senior Technical Service Engineer Dan Baribault to discuss waterjet cleaning standards. The guys discuss industry standards related to the practice and good practices associated with waterjet cleaning.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 1:10 – Waterjet cleaning
  • 3:55 – Waterjet cleaning standards
  • 5:00 – Differences between low-pressure cleaning and high-pressure waterjet cleaning
  • 8:50 - NACE/SSPC WJ-1 – Waterjetting to Bare Substrate
  • 9:20 – NACE/SSPC WJ-2 – Very Thorough Waterjetting
  • 10:39 – NACE/SSPC WJ-3 – Thorough Waterjetting
  • 11:40 – NACE/SSPC WJ-4 – Light Waterjetting
  • 13:00 – Flash rusting associated with waterjet cleaning
  • 16:34 – SSPC VIS-4/NACE VIS-7
  • 17:00 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 157 - Spray Equipment Guidelines

Carboline Senior Technical Service Engineer Dan Baribault joins Paul Atzemis and Jack Walker to discuss the basics of spay application for coatings. The trio focus on the factors that help make an effective spray pump recommendation.

  • 0:00 – Intro – Dan Baribault Carboline Technical Service Engineer
  • 1:42 – Viscosity of industrial coatings
  • 2:28 – 5 major factors for selecting spray equipment for industrial coatings
  • 2:55 – Spray pressure, fluid to air ratio, and gallons per minute
  • 7:39 – Temperature effects on coating application
  • 10:53 – The results related to hose size during coating application
  • 13:46 – How spray-tip size effects coating application

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CTSP Episode 156 - Coating Technology Used for Water Tank Exteriors

Brian Cheshire joins Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis to discuss the challenges of coating water tank exteriors. They explore the resin technology used for topcoats and the features that make them different.

  • 0:00 – Intro and feeling old
  • 3:22- Coating technology used for coating the exterior of water tanks
  • 3:51 – AWWA D102 – Coating Steel Water Tanks
  • 5:33 – Polyurethane technology used on water tank exteriors
  • 6:58 – Polyurethane clear coats used for water tank exterior
  • 9:50 – Why service life matter with coatings on water tank exteriors
  • 12:11 – Fluoropolymers used for water tank exteriors
  • 15:02 – Polysiloxanes used for water tank exteriors
  • 18:20 – Wrap Up

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CTSP Episode 155 - How to Coat Pitting Corrosion of Steel

Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss the challenges associated with coating pitted steel. They examine the factors that cause these challenges and the requirements to coat pitted steel successfully.

  • 0:00 – Intro – Podcast joke struggle
  • 3:07 – Pitting corrosion associated with steel tank re-lining projects
  • 3:50 – Pitting corrosion cell
  • 4:25 – Problems created by pitting corrosion for coating systems
  • 5:25 – The first step of re-lining a tank
  • 7:39 – Difficulty cleaning pitted steel
  • 8:16 – Reasons for the difficulty of coating pitted steel
  • 10:15 – Reasons for filling pits flush to the surface of the steel
  • 10:50 – Surface prep of pitted steel before the application of a coating system
  • 13:03 – Coating requirements for coatings designed for pitted steel
  • 14:58 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 154 - The Science of Hydrostatic Pressure & Concrete Structures

Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss the science of hydrostatic pressure and how it relates to high-performance coating systems. They also compare moisture vapor transmission to hydrostatic pressure.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 0:32 – Hydrostatic pressure versus moisture vapor transmission
  • 1:42 – The definition of hydrostatic pressure
  • 2:36 – Areas where hydrostatic pressure and moisture vapor transmission are of concern
  • 3:24 – Specialty coatings required for hydrostatic pressure and coatings for moisture vapor transmission
  • 5:21 – A real-world example of hydrostatic pressure
  • 8:37 – Review of hydrostatic pressure properties
  • 10:12 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 153 - Galvanizing vs. Zinc-Rich Coatings

Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss the different aspects of protecting steel with zinc. They discuss how galvanizing and zinc-rich coatings are similar, how they differ, and when appropriate to use each.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 1:42 – Galvanizing and zinc-rich coatings
  • 2:29 – Why we compare galvanizing and zinc-rich coatings
  • 3:47 – “The Munger Book” – Corrosion Prevention by Protective Coatings
  • Corrosion Protection by Protective Coatings
  • 4:54 – The Corrosion Cell
  • 6:37 – The chemical differences between inorganic zinc-rich coatings and galvanizing
  • 8:10 – The installation process of inorganic zinc-rich coatings
  • 9:28 - The installation process of galvanizing
  • 10:31 – Where galvanizing makes sense
  • 11:38 – One of the significant reasons to use inorganic zinc-rich coatings over galvanizing
  • 14:08 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 152 - Coating Technology Used in Wastewater Treatment Systems

Carboline Wastewater Market Manager Brian Cheshire joins Paul Atzemis and Jack Walker to discuss coating technologies used in wastewater treatment systems. They discuss epoxy, polyurethane, and polyurea coatings.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 2:00 – Brian Cheshire
  • 3:27 – WEFTEC Connect
  • 5:00 – Corrosion causes throughout wastewater systems
  • 5:38 – Coating technology used within a wastewater treatment system
  • 6:56 – Epoxy coatings used in wastewater treatment systems
  • 9:00 – Aromatic hybrid polyurethane coatings used in wastewater treatment systems
  • 11:09 – Polyurea coatings used in wastewater treatment systems
  • 13:58 – Carboline coatings that are good for wastewater treatment systems
  • 15:22 – Wrap up

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CTSP Episode 151 - Secondary Containment Coating Systems

Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss the design of secondary containment coating systems. The duo discuss neat-coat systems, aggregate-filled systems, and aggregate-filled reinforced systems and the generic types of coatings used to compose these systems.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 1:00 – Tech Service Chat and email address
  • 1:53 – Secondary containment coating systems
  • 3:20 – Epoxy, novolac epoxy, and vinyl ester coatings for secondary containment
  • 7:06 – Neat coat coating systems for secondary containment
  • 7:39 – Aggregate-filled coating systems for secondary containment
  • 9:05 – Broadcasted aggregate versus blended aggregate in aggregate-filled coating systems for secondary containment
  • 10:25 – Aggregate-filled reinforced coating systems for secondary containment
  • 13:25 – Wrap up

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CTSP - Episode 150 - Choosing a Fireproofing Coating

Carboline Technical Service Engineer Chris Burst joins the guys to discuss the process of making a passive fire protection product recommendation. They discuss the different types of passive fire protection coatings and when to use an intumescent or a cementitious product.

  • 0:00 – Intro
  • 1:19 – Introduction to Technical Service Engineer Chris Burst
  • 2:32 – Making a passive fire protection coating recommendation
  • 3:27 – Information required to make a passive fire protection coating recommendation
  • 4:25 – Types of passive fire protection coatings, Intumescent and Cementitious
  • 4:49 – Hourly fire protection ratings and factors that determine the required rating
  • 8:58 – How an excellent passive fire protection material specification can save the end-user money throughout a project
  • 11:07 – Identifying passive fire protection coatings in the real world
  • 12:20 – Reasons to pick an intumescent fireproofing product versus a cementitious fireproofing product
  • 13:52 – Wrap up

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