Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss a brand new technology brought to you by Carboline, Supoxy based coatings. The duo discusses the latest technology while introducing the first product in the line: Plasite XHT 400, designed to coat fire tubes on upstream process vessels. Paul and Jack also explain how fire tubes work and why coating them is challenging.

• 0:00 – Intro and second takes
• 1:25 – The goal of the Carboline Tech Service Podacst
• 2:16 – The new Supoxy technology and Plasite XHT 400
• 3:30 – Fire tubes in upstream oil and gas process vessels
• 4:50 – Phase separation within upstream oil and gas process vessels
• 6:15 – Gas phase within the upstream oil and gas process vessels
• 7:02 – Steam coil heating versus fire tube heating
• 8:33 – The development of Plasite HT 400
• 10:29 – Application benefits of Supoxy technology
• 11:17 – A different way to think about being “greener” with coatings
• 12:17 – Wrap up

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis are joined by new Carboline Technical Service Engineer Blayn Drew. Before joining Carboline, Blayn was a coating inspection. Listen in as the guys have an honest chat about the value of third-party coating inspection.

• 0:00 – Intro
• 2:38 – Introduction to Technical Service Engineer Blayn Drew
• 3:30 – The role of the coating inspector
• 5:14 – The removal of bias
• 6:40 – Holding firm to the specification
• 8:48 – Contractor benefits of having 3rd party coating inspection
• 9:30 – Importance of good working relationships between the coating inspector and the applicator
• 10:20 – How the coating inspector helps with potential changes to the specification
• 11:15 – How the coating inspector helps ensure the entended service life
• 12:20 – The value of the coating inspector’s experience
• 13:50 – Liability when a coating inspector is involved
• 15:40 – Wrap up

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Brian Cheshire joins Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis to discuss SSPC Technology Guide 27 - Recommended Performance Properties for Liquid-Applied Organic Polymeric Coatings and Linings for Concrete Structures in Municipal Wastewater Facilities. Listen as the trio discuss the factors that challenge coating systems in a wastewater treatment plant.

• 0:00 – Intro
• 0:51 – Brian Cheshire and Chumbawumba
• 3:10 – SSPC Technology Guide 27¬¬ – Recommended Performance Properties for Liquid-Applied Organic Polymeric Coatings and Linings for Concrete Structures in Municipal Wastewater Facilities
• http://shop.sspc.org/ST-000G27
• 4:56 – Collection systems - Manholes, interceptors, lift stations
• 5:20 – Hydrogen sulfide gas, methane gas present in the headspace challenges to concrete and coating systems
• 5:52 – Biogenic sulfide corrosion, commonly known as microbial induced corrosion (MIC)
• 7:00 – Hydrogen sulfide becomes sulfuric acid due to microbial induced corrosion within wastewater systems
• 9:22 – Assets constructed of concrete within a wastewater treatment plant
• 10:01 – The Clean Water Act and MIC
• 10:25 – Factors that make a coating suitable for wastewater collection systems
• 10:58 – Unintended consequences associated with regulations
• 12:54 – Preliminary wastewater treatment systems and considerations for coating systems
• 15:05 – Primary wastewater treatment systems and considerations for coating systems
• 16:54 – The aggressive environment found in wastewater treatment systems
• 18:00 – Testing protocol outlined in SSPC Technology Guide 27 to identify coating systems for concrete in wastewater treatment
• 20:10 – ASTM G210 - Standard Practice for Operating the Severe Wastewater Analysis Testing Apparatus
• https://www.astm.org/Standards/G210.htm
• 21:30 – Wrap up

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss the moisture content tests used in the coatings industry. The duo also discusses the importance of these tests and the phenomenon that requires them to be performed.

• 0:00 - Intro- concrete and the weather
• 2:51 – Surface preparation of concrete
• 3:45 – Moisture vapor tests for concrete before the application of coating systems
• 5:03 – The science behind moisture vapor transmission
• 7:07 – The importance of performing these tests in conditioned space
• 8:12 - NACE No. 6/SSPC-SP 13, Surface Preparation of Concrete
• https://store.nace.org/nace-no-6-sspc-13-surface-preparation-of-concrete-2
• 8:31 – The three approved moisture content tests per NACE No. 6/SSPC-SP 13
• 11:30 – ASTM D4263 - Standard Test Method for Indicating Moisture in Concrete by the Plastic Sheet Method
• https://www.astm.org/Standards/D4263.htm
• 13:19 – ASTM F1869 - Standard Test Method for Measuring Moisture Vapor Emission Rate of Concrete Subfloor Using Anhydrous Calcium Chloride
• https://www.astm.org/Standards/F1869.htm
• 16:58 – ASTM F2170 - Standard Test Method for Determining Relative Humidity in Concrete Floor Slabs Using in situ Probes
• https://www.astm.org/Standards/F2170.htm
• 20:15 – Wrap U

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss the many factors of secondary containment design and the construction of coating systems for secondary containment.

• 0:00 – Intro and the AER Podcast
• https://air-equipment.com/podcast
• 2:38 – Secondary containment coating systems
• 3:15 – EPA Spill Prevention, Control, and Countermeasure (SPCC) Guidance for Regional Inspectors – Chapter 4
• https://www.epa.gov/oil-spills-prevention-and-preparedness-regulations/spill-prevention-control-and-countermeasure-6
• 4:48 – Goal of Secondary containment systems
• 4:56 – Secondary containment design considerations
• 5:16 – Treatment of expansion joints, cold joints, cracks, pipe penetrations, and more with elastomeric coatings
• 6:12 – Vehicular traffic in secondary containment areas
• 7:40 – Slope away from primary containment
• 8:31 – How big does the secondary containment area have to be?
• 10:11 – The secondary design has to account for rainfall
• 11:07 – The 72-hour rule
• 12:40 – Coating system design for secondary containment
• 15:05 – Neat coating systems for secondary containment
• 16:41 – Aggregate-filled coating systems for secondary containment
• 18:08 – Aggregate-reinforced coating systems for secondary containment
• 20:00 – Wrap up

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss the AWWA C222 standard. This standard relates to the use of polyurethanes and polyurea for the interior and exterior of steel water pipe, valves, and fittings.

• 0:00 - Intro
• 3:39 - Introduction to AWWA C222 - Polyurethane Coatings and Linings for Steel Water Pipe and Fittings
• 4:40 - AWWA C222 for the exterior of steel pipe
• 5:44 - History of polyurethane use within the AWWA C222 standard
• 6:53 - Use of polyurethanes for the interior of water pipes
• 8:03 - NSF/ANSI/CAN 600 - Health Effects Evaluation and Criteria for Chemicals in Drinking Water
• 9:31 - Chemical resistance required per AWWA C222
• 10:45 - Repairs of the polyurethane coating per AWWA C222
• 11:36 - Performance requirements per AWWA C222
• 14:16 - Wrap up

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss coatings under insulation in the petroleum, petrochemical and natural gas industries by exploring the standard ISO 19277.

• 0:00 – Intro and the crutch
• 1:48 – The element of surprise
• 2:03 – Coatings Under Insulation – NACE SP 0198 “Control of Corrosion Under Thermal Insulation and Fireproofing Materials—A Systems Approach”
• https://store.nace.org/sp0198-2016
• 2:37 – ISO 19277 – “Petroleum, Petrochemical And Natural Gas Industries - Qualification Testing And Acceptance Criteria For Protective Coating Systems Under Insulation”
• 3:10 – Temperature categories of CUI 1-3
• 4:56 – Cryogenic classes per ISO 19277
• 5:40 – Immersion and salt spray testing per ISO 19277
• 6:55 – ISO 4628 “Paints and varnishes — Evaluation of degradation of coatings — Designation of quantity and size of defects, and of intensity of uniform changes in appearance”
• 9:37 – Thermal cycle testing per ISO 19277
• 11:16 – Dry and wet cyclic testing per ISO 19277
• 12:28 – NACE SP0198 differences from ISO 19277
• 15:33 – Wrap up

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Sean Younger joins Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis to discuss the differences between standards ASTM E84 and ASTM E119. The two standards are readily used in the fireproofing industry, listen as they discuss the critical factors of these two standards.

• 0:00 – Intro and technical difficulties
• 1:54 – Kidnapping the CFO
• 2:51 – Reintroduction to Sean Younger, Carboline Fireproofing Sales
• 3:21 – ASTM E84 and ASTM E119
• 3:56 – ASTM E84 - Standard Test Method for Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials
• https://www.astm.org/Standards/E84.htm
• 5:00 – ASTM E119 - Standard Test Methods for Fire Tests of Building Construction and Materials
• https://www.astm.org/search/fullsite-search.html?query=e119&
• 5:28 – Fire protection versus flame spread
• 6:30 – Flame spread index per ASTM E84
• 7:18 – Flame index categories per ASTM E84
• 7:51 – Compartmentalization of fire
• 9:03 – Smoke index per ASTM E84
• 10:38 – ASTM E84 does not give products hourly fire ratings
• 11:37 – ASTM E119 testing
• 12:26 – Differences between ASTM E84 and ASTM E119
• 13:23 – Importance of full-scale testing for fire resistance ratings per ASTM E119
• 14:01 – Differences between full-scale testing and small-scale screening
• 17:37 – UL and NFPA tests that mirror ASTM E84 and ASTM E119
• 18:08 – Critical temperature for ASTM E119
• 19:18 – Wrap up

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss some common standards and common misconceptions related to those standards, and how they are different from each other.

• 0:00 – Intro
• 1:40 – Standards, regulations, and policies
• 2:57 – FDA (Food and Drug Administration) approved linings
• 3:49 – USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) approved coatings
• 5:00 – FDA 21 CFR 175.300 – Resinous Polymers and Coatings

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=175.300

• 6:46 – NSF/ANSI 61 – Drinking Water Systems Components

https://webstore.ansi.org/Standards/NSF/NSFANSI612017?gclid=CjwKCAjwmMX4BRAAEiwA-zM4JsQ9VlSwYXM-gTzS7uxrSMXPLD6VdO5pAaWlMpPr6xHm-4K_gpFtMRoCa_gQAvD_BwE

• 8:28 – Surface area to volume calculation

• 9:00 – Temperature constraints

• 9:50 – AWWA D102 - Coating Steel Water Storage Tanks

https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/awwa/awwad100d102d103steelwater?gclid=CjwKCAjwmMX4BRAAEiwA-zM4JlwdPNquDMkXLLssZnBOa_mk1a_JFsS54RRbtMB_3I2k4YhDgnJ7QxoCeB4QAvD_BwE

• 12:00 – AWWA C210 - Liquid Epoxy Coating Systems For The Interior & Exterior Of Steel Water Pipelines

https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/awwa/awwac21007?gclid=CjwKCAjwmMX4BRAAEiwA-zM4JmeQK2A_Kch2JDXlw_MFR-ILtZfSlvdJswhbtFcipieKbpGZilJ1UhoCZqMQAvD_BwE

• 12:30 – Wrap up

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis are joined by Carboline Rail Salesman Joe Foster. They discuss all the factors associated with the selection of exterior coatings for rail cars, from benefits of the different coating technologies to factors that are important to shops and rail car owners.

• 0:00 Audience of one
• 1:13 The van
• 2:00 Introduction to Joe Foster, Carboline Rail Sales \
• 2:51 Selecting an exterior coating for rail cars (hopper cars, tank cars, etc.)
• 3:04 History of coating technologies and their use in the rail car industry
• 3:51 – VOC restrictions high solids epoxies
• 4:39 – The rail car stamp
• 6:15 – The rail shop perspective and advantages of high solids epoxies
• 8:26 – Familiarity with a coating can increase throughput
• 10:33 – The rail car owner and coatings
• 10:59 – Technology matters, things to remember when comparing the price of different coating technologies
• 11:58 – Longevity and cycle importance of rail car coatings
• 13:29 - Lining up painting schedule with maintenance schedule
• 14:22 – The importance of tracking your coatings and their performance
• 16:00 – 20-year-old rail car with high solids epoxy
• 17:42 – Wrap up

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis are joined by Matt McDonald, Carboline's Director of Sales for the rail industry. The trio discusses the process of selecting a lining for a rail tank car, and problems that are associated with incorrect lining selection.

• 0:00 – Thirteen feet
• 1:55 – Intro to Matt McDonald – Director of Sales - Rail
• 2:08 – Matt dodges the odds
• 4:00 – The decision-making process for rail tank car linings
• 5:40 – Why do we line rail tank cars?
• 6:14 – Protecting the asset (rail car) from corrosion
• 7:07 – Product or cargo purity
• 7:23 – Regulatory compliance with Federal Railroad Association
• 9:08 – The information required to make a recommendation for a rail tank car lining
• 10:58 – Additional special factors for tank car recommendations
• 11:26 – YOU SAID HOW MANY TESTS?!?!?
• 13:00 – Conservative verse risk-averse
• 13:30 – Cost of lining failure with a rail tank car
• 15:32 – Wrap up

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Brian Cheshire joins Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis to discuss changes coming to the coatings industry due to NSF/ANSI 600. The trio discusses how the standard changes the water tank industry.

• 0:00 - Intro & Murdoch update
• 2:31 - Introduction to Brian Cheshire
• 3:32 - All the memberships
• 4:10 - NSF/ANSI 61 Drinking water system components - Health effects
• 6:05 - NSF/ANSI 600 Health Effects Evaluation and Criteria for Chemicals in Drinking Water
• 6:42 - Reduction of allowable solvents in coating formulation
• 9:20 - Solvent-based epoxies and water tanks
• 9:47 - 100% solids epoxy and hybrid polyurethane coatings
• 10:39 - Benefits of 100% solids epoxy and hybrid polyurethane coatings
• 11:14 - Service life of coatings
• 12:04 - Development of 100% solids epoxy for beneficial application characteristics
• 13:39 - How the new NSF standard changes the coatings industry
• 15:03 - Wrap up

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Paul Atzemis and Jack Walker discuss the evolution of coatings under insulation. They explore the early practices and what is commonly performed today.

• 0:00 Intro
• 1:07 Creative topic selection
• 2:05 Coatings under insulation, the beginning
• 3:16 Coatings under insulation compared to immersion service
• 3:45 The effects of heat, oxygen, and moisture on the corrosion of assets under insulation
• 4:00 The early adoption of inorganic zinc in the 1980s for CUI
• 4:40 NACE study of CUI
• 5:42 NACE study eliminates inorganic zinc as an option for CUI due to polarity reversal
• 6:58 Salt effects on zinc polarity reversal
• 7:47 Fireproofing and its similarity to insulation

• 9:25 The introduction of NACE SP0198

  https://store.nace.org/sp0198-2016

• 11:06 Wrap up

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss the factors in choosing a thick-film coating system versus choosing a thin-film coating system. Abrasion, flexibility, substrates, and application equipment are all discussed.

• 0:00 Paul’s curveball
• 3:15 Coating recommendation categories
• 3:52 Thick film coating systems and thin-film coating systems
• 5:12 Substrate can determine coating system
• 7:09 Pitted storage tanks
• 7:32 High-solids coatings
• 8:52 Abrasion conditions effects on coating system selection
• 9:48 Flexibility and impact resistance
• 11:06 Scheduling effects on coating system selection
• 12:02 UV effects on coating system selection
• 13:44 Availability of application equipment effect on coating system selection
• 15:24 Wrap up

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis continue their discussion on cost considerations for coatings projects. They discuss the differences between applied cost and price per gallon.

• 0:00 – Murdoch and the Room
• 1:35 – Alexa plays the podcast
• 3:15 – Coverage of coatings
• 4:11 – Per gallon cost
• 5:05 – Nail polish versus acrylic paint cost
• 7:10 – Solids by volume effects on coverage
• 7:50 – Mil/feet2 per gallon
• 9:00 – Standard coverage considerations
• 10:45 – Per gallon price versus coverage cost
• 12:30 – Coating thickness effect on coverage cost
• 13: 20 – Review of coverage formula
• 15:05 – Surface profile effects on coverage
• 17:26 – Wrap up

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis continue their exploration in the costs of coatings projects. This week the duo explores immersion grade linings and the factors that affect their value. They explore everything from coal tar epoxies to 100% solids polyurethane linings.

• 0:00 – Intro – Murdoch and the Helicopter
• 1:15 – Cost of Coatings – Immersion Linings
• 2:30 – NACE Paper 10673 – Expected Service Life and Cost Considerations for Maintenance and New
• 3:51 – Coal Tar Epoxy and High-Solids Epoxy Linings
• 5:00 – Think film versus thin film linings
• 6:20 – AWWA D210 Inside systems
• 8:00 – 100% solids linings (epoxies, novolacs, and polyurethanes)
• 9:17 – Commodity cycle effects on the service life of the lining
• 10:36 – Applied cost versus per gallon cost of 100% solids linings
• 11:34 – Vinyl ester and polyester linings
• 12:50 – Factors that affect the service life of linings
• 13:25 – Wrap up

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis continue their discussion about the Cost of Coatings. They explore how coating systems are designed, and how that could affect the cost. They compare systems to the standard zinc, epoxy, urethane system.

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis continue their exploration into the cost of different coating technology. This week the duo focuses on topcoats as they explore polyurethanes, siloxanes, polyureas, and more.

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis begin to discuss the cost of different coating technologies. The duo compares the cost associated with a coating technology and the expected life cycle from that technology.

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis continue their exploration into the factors that affect costs with industrial coatings projects. In this episode, Paul and Jack explore the environment classification of ISO 12944 and discuss how this standard is used relates to evaluating coating technology.

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis continue their exploration into the cost of coatings projects. They review ASTM B117 as a standard of coating evaluation as they begin to compare coating technology.

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis begin a series discussing the different factors that can influence the cost of a coatings project. The duo begins with a look at surface preparation and the factors that drive cost during this portion of a high-performance coatings project.

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss slip critical connections and how coating selection affects slip critical connections. The pair also discuss the testing of coatings for this specialty service.

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss a topic that they have hinted at for 125 episodes. Paul and Jack give you the why behind the coating selection process as they explore an over-arching theme of the show in depth.

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis are joined by Carboline President Chris Tiernay to discuss Carboline and COVID 19. The trio discusses the current status of Carboline and of the things to come soon.

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Joe Walker (no relation), of Elcometer, stops by the Carboline booth at SSPC Coatings + to discuss advancements in dry film thickness measurement technology with Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis. The trio discusses scanning technology gauges and factory calibrated gauges.

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Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis discuss adhesion values and what they mean. How do we get maximum adhesion and how low should be acceptable. Originally released 11/26/18.

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Bernardo Duran of the International Zinc Association stops by to discuss the use of zinc for corrosion control with Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis. The trio explores the different method zinc is deployed for corrosion control. Recorded live on 2/4/20 at Coatings + 2020.

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Kyle Smith stops by SSPC Coatings + to discuss the lining of crude oil storage tanks with Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis. They discuss the challenges and remedies for this challenging service. Recorded live at SSPC Coatings + on 2/5/20.

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Dustin Young of SSPC joins Jack Walker and Paul Atzemis to discuss new concrete standards from SSPC. The trio discusses the new concrete abrasive blasting standards SSPC CAB 1-3. Also, they talk about the new surface texture standard for resinous flooring SSPC CTS-1.

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